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How Liberal Am I?

May 11, 2006 11:51 AM
Tags: blogging, leftwing, libertarian, politics

By Atrios's list (via Jane Galt):

Undo the bankruptcy bill enacted by this administration
Maybe. I really know next-to-nothing about the bill.

Repeal the estate tax repeal
No. Taxes are bad, even if they're on the filthy rich. If we create disincentives for people to create wealth, less wealth is going to be created.

Increase the minimum wage and index it to the CPI
No. It's damn near an axiom of economics that if you increase the costs of something (e.g. labor), the substitutes will be far more attractive (e.g. outsourcing or organizing in a less labor-intensive manner). Raising the minimum wage from $5.15 to $6 will mean that the people whose labor is worth $5.50 will go from employed to unemployed. If you support the minimum wage, your heart is in the right place, but your brain isn't.

Universal health care (obviously the devil is in the details on this one)
No. I would love it if everyone got all the health care they wanted, but the fact is that it's an expensive, scarce good and taxpayers should not be forced to foot the bill for everyone's medical bills.

Increase CAFE standards. Some other environment-related regulation
No. This is classic "you are dumb; we know what's best for you" thinking. If Americans want more fuel efficient cars, they will buy them. If Americans don't want lighter vehicles, then they should have the freedom to do otherwise.

Pro-reproductive rights, getting rid of abstinence-only education, improving education about and access to contraception including the morning after pill, and supporting choice. On the last one there's probably some disagreement around the edges (parental notification, for example), but otherwise.
Yes, and then some — parental notification is just going to mean that some of the people most in need of abortions (e.g. pregnant 14 year olds) aren't going to get them.

Simplify and increase the progressivity of the tax code
No, and yes. The tax code is grotesque. But progressivity is idiotic; you're simply burdening the most economically productive members of society. A flat tax is a good idea on both these counts.

Kill faith-based funding. Certainly kill federal funding of anything that engages in religious discrimination.
Yes. If you're a Jesus freak, don't use my tax dollars to subsidize your fairy tales.

Reduce corporate giveaways
Yes. In fact, end corporate (and agricultural) welfare entirely.

Have Medicare run the Medicare drug plan
No. They aren't exactly the paragon of efficiency and competence as it is; giving them more power and responsibility isn't going to help anywone.

Force companies to stop underfunding their pensions. Change corporate bankruptcy law to put workers and retirees at the head of the line with respect to their pensions.
No, and yes. I think pension funding should be public and, if a company is way behind on that obligation, workers and investors will punish them by going elsewhere.

Leave the states alone on issues like medical marijuana. Generally move towards "more decriminalization" of drugs, though the details complicated there too.
Yes, but it's not complicated. End prohibition; it is far, far worse than what we'd have with, say, drinking laws applied to marijuana use.

Paper ballots
No. This is some Luddite idiocy. That said, any voting machines should be subject to intense scrutiny, especially with regard to fraud.

Improve access to daycare and other pro-family policies. Obiously details matter.
No. What's worse than a figurative nanny state? A literal nanny state.

Raise the cap on wages covered by FICA taxes.
No. Taxes should be lowered, not raised.

Marriage rights for all, which includes "gay marriage" and quicker transition to citizenship for the foreign spouses of citizens.
Yes. I'm not really familiar with the specifics of the latter, but I strongly support gay marriage.

How liberal? Not very, by Atrios's standards.


Comments: How Liberal Am I?

The old cliché: "Fiscally conservative, socially liberal".

Posted by: Keesey on May 11, 2006 12:34 PM | permalink

In all honesty I am shocked by your answers on a lot of these. It would be great if you did a seperate entry explaining why you "voted" one way or another.

Posted by: Elyssa on May 11, 2006 12:35 PM | permalink

Yeah, maybe I'll flesh it out later.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 11, 2006 12:40 PM | permalink

Ok, if you were to get a cash gifts from a relative, someone is supposed to pay taxes on that. So why do we not have an estate tax? Doesn't seem fair.

Taxes are totally screwed up in many ways. Last year, John Kerry made something like $500,000, but he paid more tax than his wife who made something like $7,000,000. The Bushes made something like $600,000, but they paid more than the Cheneys, who made more than ten times as much. When I say more, I mean actual dollars, not just the percent.

Posted by: Od-ll on May 11, 2006 1:02 PM | permalink

Actually, your just slightly less liberal than I am. Which is interesting.

Posted by: j on May 11, 2006 1:07 PM | permalink

O'dell:

I don't think cash gifts from a relative should be taxed either. And, yes, the tax system is incredibly fucked up.

j:

That's probably a sign that the metric is wrong. Though, I am very liberal on social issues, I am not economically so.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 11, 2006 1:24 PM | permalink

How is increasing access to daycare and other pro-family choices not a social issue?

Are you saying you are anti-family Joe???? lol jk

Posted by: Elyssa on May 11, 2006 2:14 PM | permalink

I agree with Elyssa.

This needs some fleshing out for sure; don't increase CAFE standards? End the agriculture subsidies? Rely on SEC notifications to police underfunded pensions?

I'm afraid to say that some of these just make no sense. Leave CAFE alone and we'll need to at elast double the gas taxes to encourage folks to get rid of their V10 F350 dually used for a daily commuter. Hopefully you meant to say something like "get rid of CAFE credit trading, and raise CAFE 3% per year for the next 20 years." You would honestly sell out our environment in favor of having the choice to pollute?

Drop Ag subsidies? We would also need to open the markets up (e.g. Cuba) since the government regulates who and where (and how much) a person can sell their goods to (think: Tobacco). I'm guessing you didn't grow up on a farm...

And since when did pension information become a larger concern than yera-over-year returns and market share? GM, Ford, (and until recently) IBM and HP all have huge pension issues. What is causing concern at GM and Ford - pension worries or lack of sales?

Posted by: Bubba on May 11, 2006 2:32 PM | permalink

Bubba:

I think that increasing CAFE wouldn't have a positive effect on the environment that would outweigh the negative effect (i.e. government infringing on freedom). Admittedly, this isn't an issue that I have a really strong opinion on. If we raised fuel efficiency standards, I don't think it would be a tragedy.

Droping agricultural subsidies, even in the absence of other policies, is a good idea. Consumers should be able to purchase items like sugar at the best price they can find; being able to continue grow something that is no longer profitable is not a god-given right. If comparitive advantage indicates that the US should import a lot more of its food, then we would be way more efficient to heed that.

And as far as pension information goes, if it were treated like "real" debt (i.e. no different from a business owing a ton of money to the bank), investors and employees would notice. I can't believe your final question is a real one; there has been an enormous amount of coverage recently about how Detroit's pension obligations are dragging down the profitability and share prices at GM and Ford.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 11, 2006 2:45 PM | permalink

Medicare/medicaid is actually very efficient compared to the private healthcare system. This applies both to drugs and general healthcare. We're wasting money by funding private systems that have the worst management in the industrial world. Medicare/medicaid is *by far* the most efficient healthcare administration in the country. When you factor in all the people involved in administration, I think it comes close to 50% of the healthcare cost. I don't know what that number is for Medica(re|id), but the internal administration cost differences are substantial (I vaguely remember numbers around 20% overhead vs 5% overhead).

Our healthcare system is a good example of what happens with private systems that aren't free market; consumers don't purchase their insurance (their employers do), knowledge is incredibly asymmetric, there are cartels controlling many portions of the system (including doctors), there's lots of conflict of interest, choice doesn't even make sense (who wants to make choices about providers when you are in an ambulance?), and basic moral standards mean that collective coverage *has* to exist on some level.

There's really no economic way to justify the current system, unless you think it's an economic good to support a system rife with leaches, and that those people have a right to keep government from interfering with their parasitic profits.

Posted by: Ian Bicking on May 11, 2006 2:55 PM | permalink

Ian:

I definitely agree that the health care system has major problems, not the least of which is the schizophrenia regarding private transactions versus the public good.

And I would be far less opposed to a universal coverage system existing in parallel to a public one than I would be to a Canadian one where private practice is illegal.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 11, 2006 2:59 PM | permalink

I get the conservative thing, but I don't see how you can't be in favor of universal health care. All the other civilized countries seem to be doing something right since they spend 5 times less than us per capita to keep their people alive. And skinnier, too.

Posted by: ChuckJerry on May 11, 2006 10:23 PM | permalink

For the millionth time, it's not conservatism. Would a conservative equate organized religion with the Tooth Fairy?

Again, the countries spend less in *direct* costs, but they also have higher tax burdens, way high unemployment and less economic growth. Do really you want this: http://www.joegrossberg.com/archives/002358.html ?

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 11, 2006 10:39 PM | permalink

More needs to be done to get some form of medical coverage to those who don't have it, but socialized medicine brings about a mess of other problems. It's already hard enough under most plans to see a specialist, usually involving referrals and long waits in an office... imagine if it took months. Imagine taking a day off from work, sitting in a waiting room all day, and still not getting to see a doctor. Imagine having to move to another country to get the treatment you need. (All true stories from various Canadian friends.)

Universal coverage should be the goal, but socialized medicine is not the way to achieve it.

Posted by: heather on May 12, 2006 1:12 AM | permalink

"Universal coverage should be the goal, but socialized medicine is not the way to achieve it."

Then what is? Solutions, please.

Posted by: Od-ll on May 12, 2006 4:36 PM | permalink

When I hear one, I'll support it. Until then, the cure sounds worse than the disease (pun intended).

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 12, 2006 4:55 PM | permalink

Why ag subsidies and not the others, like steel or cars or any other protectionist monies?

And yes, the item about Ford or GM was a valid question. They have had mounting pension debt for decades...only since their sales have fallen does anyone care about their pension debt. HP was one of the best performaing stocks last year - yet look at their unfunded pension numbers. No one cares because their short term outlook is great.

Posted by: Bubba on May 16, 2006 3:53 PM | permalink

You can interpret "end corporate (and agricultural) welfare entirely" to mean subsidizing steel companies and the like.

And I don't agree with your assertion re: pensions. Yeah, HP is up, but there are many reasons why, such as sales or ditching their crappy CEO.

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on May 16, 2006 4:16 PM | permalink

No more comments! Either someone has violated Godwin's Law, I'm tired of the discussion or, most likely, the ten-week window has closed. You can, however, contact me through email.