Why Guys Shouldn't Fuck Below Their Attractiveness
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When handsome dude sleeps with average women, it fucks things up for everyone else, as a Craig's List poster notes:
[T]he average girl ... bangs a hot guy every now and then, and she really thinks she is the shit. No one told her, though, that any guy (hot or not) will bang any average girl. Sadly, the average women develop this "I'll never settle" mentality. Average guys are suddenly not an option for them, leaving us average guys out in the cold. The genuine hot girls, of course, are not an option for us, so that leaves us with the fat chicks. Thanks. Thanks a lot, hot guy. Meanwhile, the really hot chicks are sitting around dissing us and waiting for you to come talk to them. (And we can only imagine the torture that the fat guys are going through as we average guys are forced to mack on their women.)
Unlike the idiotic illusions of pop culture — whereby Maxim-reading schlubs think they could bone a swimsuit model and, even worse, "Sex In the City"-watching chicks think they can afford a NYC apartment on a writer's salary, have gorgeous men fawning after them and be as svelte as Sarah Jessica Parker, despite a rigorous diet of Chinese food, ice cream and cosmopolitans — this transpires in real-life.
I saw it first-hand at college, where there were a negligible number of hot chicks, a decent number of average chicks and a whole lot of dogs who looked like they could be William Hung's sister. Naturally, guys have got to get laid, and the pretty-boys and jocks hogged the few cute girls; the average guys like me hooked up with ugly girls more often than we'd like to admit; and the nerdy guys kept their virginities intact until they were at least seniors and could fast-talk a drunk freshman out of her clothes.
Then again, I've been with women way more attractive than I'd have expected. So maybe this guy's approach is wrong, if his analysis isn't. If your timing is right, and you kick it often enough, eventually your best game is bound to be better than a hot chick's lowered defenses. Then you fucking run with it.
In the meantime, it's the reverse of the Nash equilibrium in "A Beautiful Mind"; instead of all the guys getting laid on account of their ignoring the hot blonde for a so-so chick apiece, a Colin Farrell bones every homely ho in the room and recalibrates their expectations accordingly. The results are women whose standards result in loneliness for both sexes.
Man, that was a great rant, if sexist, offensive and obnoxious. I need to do this more often.
"the average guys like me hooked up with ugly girls more often than we'd like to admit;"
People that share your attitude don't deserve to get any from anyone, "hot" or "not," IMO. You should tell those girls you find ugly what you really think and see how it goes from there.
My respect for you has fallen another notch.
Posted by: O'dell on January 23, 2005 2:10 PM | permalinkAttractiveness is too subjective. Sorry, your argument carries no weight. (Aside from the fact that it's sexist, offensive, etc.) Since when do people fall into three neatly defined categories: hot, average, ugly? Who are you, Howard Stern?!
Posted by: S on January 24, 2005 10:28 AM | permalinkSure, it's a sliding scale and not three distinct categories, and taste is a minor factor -- having discussed chicks with guys for the past 17 years of so, I can say there is lots of consensus, but I think the dynamics described here are generally accurate.
Posted by: Joe Grossberg on January 24, 2005 12:06 PM | permalinkExcellent post, Joey! Let's start seeing more rants like this one...don't worry about the fun-haters who read this site...F'em!
Posted by: Danny G on January 25, 2005 11:45 AM | permalinkWell let me add ... it's even worse when homos like you do it, because that's *really* hogging punani from the ugly, straight guys who are lonely. :)
Posted by: Joe Grossberg on January 25, 2005 12:20 PM | permalinkJoe, that last comment was so funny because it is so right! ;-)
Posted by: Ryan on January 25, 2005 1:23 PM | permalinkI stumbled across your web page ... I am female, 27, and not a ten. I pretty much agree with your assessment.
I don't even think its shallow, its pragmatic. People should not live in delusion, it is very unhealthy and can result in permanent loneliness.
This goes for men as well as women. Many times I have encountered pretty homely men who have a less than stellar career who are holding out for that lovely gal who is better looking, sexier, and more pleasant than Carmen Elektra. These are guys I wouldn't even consider dating, yet they are jerks to women like me because they are convinced they can do better. They are jerks in any social or proffessional setting. Tension of the sexes is not limited to those occassions where one person is trying to hook up with the other.
I am not particularly picky when it comes to men, I would be happy with my equal because I am ok with who I am and the limits of my potential. The ironic thing is that the men who find me attractive are men I would rate higher than I rate myself. I am always shocked when this happens, because it makes no sense to me why uglier, less desirable men would be so mean to me and find me unattractive, yet these superior guys show interest and treat me better.
Posted by: Pink Jammy on February 11, 2005 8:13 AM | permalinkHey fuck you man. giys like you are such dickheads. 'look at me i fuck below my standard', maybe you have unrealistic standards you tossheads
Posted by: pete on February 2, 2007 2:29 PM | permalinkHi, i consider myself pretty attractive, I am about an eight. At twelve i was hit on by older men, and was constantly protected by my brother. I do not find your opinion offensive and i agree. I see really cute guys dating these ugly (usually big-nosed women) and i don't understand why they lower their standards. Then what happens is that these same ugly women begin to think they are hot and they can get a cute guy all the time, its pretty pathetic. A male (very attractive) friend of mine told me that there was one simple and easy answer for this, "Pussy has no face." Great looking guys date uglier women because it is an easy target for them, and they get tired of hot girls with self-esteem problems.
by the way my brother thinks sarah jessica parker is homely and too skinny, no boobs and ass.Sorry, not my opnion.
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